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OS X 10.11

1. Updating operating systems is a pain, and I don't even have that many fancy settings. Why did you reset my desktop wallpaper and shortcut icons, and put a bunch of junk applications in my Dock?

2. The Finder icon in this version creeps me out. Too much smiling. Some "features" are making me remember Mr. Clippy. Eff off, stupid popups. And hah, Firefox is still crashing due to something associated with Wikipedia and Facebook! (I don't want to use Chrome because I don't want Google to completely own my soul. Actually, I don't want any large corporation to have complete access to my information and behavior. It's foolish to think their interests are aligned with mine. And ugh, Safari is more shitty now, too.)

3. It's irritating to have to put in my credit card information to "validate" my Apple ID and download this "free" "upgrade," even if I can go delete it back out immediately afterwords.

4. Perhaps, like S, I should just run a Unix workstation of some sort, except I do enjoy cat pictures and R graphics, too. Or is it just time for someone to come along and start from scratch with a fresh OS?

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thewronghands
Oct. 20th, 2015 05:10 pm (UTC)
I am answering this post and looking at cat pictures on a Linux station right now. I don't do R graphics, though, so I don't know about their support on that front. Most Ubuntu variations are pretty reasonable everyday machines... mine supports the things I need it to do with way less pain than I would have expected several years back, heh.
rebeccmeister
Oct. 20th, 2015 05:32 pm (UTC)
All things considered, I am leaning towards something Ubuntu-flavored, myself. Here's the most recent status update from S which explains the tip o' the iceberg in terms of his technological frustrations (which he may bring on himself to some extent):

http://scrottie.livejournal.com/74576.html

I don't know how he still manages to be optimistic about certain tech things given how burned out he has gotten on programming for small startups.
thewronghands
Oct. 20th, 2015 08:13 pm (UTC)
I haven't had problems anywhere near that extensive! That sounds like no fun at all. I installed this laptop with the 64-bit version of Backbox (an Ubuntu derivative for pen-testing) about four years ago and haven't had substantial software problems since. I run the software updates when applicable. I have a VMWare Player Windows VM for apps that are only Windows-side. It's basically fine.
scrottie
Oct. 20th, 2015 09:03 pm (UTC)
It looks like this copy of Debian was originally installed somewhere around 2007 or 2008. The HD or HD image has survived multiple machines. A lot of the problem is me being slow to update stuff because I have a lot of software built from source that I then I have to rebuild (friends keep telling me just to make Debian packages for it, but I haven't done that). Once you're a certain period of time out of date, updates work a lot less well. I also use a lot of packages that are now considered unusual and I'd have to let go of those for the thing to find an upgrade path. Even if I did everything the normal way and it all worked, I still think Debian broke Unix, just because it insists on only having one version of versioned libraries installed. I'd continue on slowly replacing everything with stuff built from source but wanting to move to 64 bit suggests a fresh start, finally. Ugh. Anyway.
twoeleven
Oct. 20th, 2015 10:58 pm (UTC)
That really sounds like why I bailed from *BSD and Linux years ago. :P

Apple has become increasingly obnoxious about software updates, though it's still (was still) possible to get them anonymously with some work. (One of my machines is too old to run what was then the latest and greatest upgrade, and I pestered their tech support into telling me where they hid the older updates.)

Truely private minds might give apple a throw-away email address to use for their Apple-SpyD, and use one-use credit cards for it was well. I haven't yet gone to that length, but they're pushing me hard.
scrottie
Oct. 20th, 2015 09:26 pm (UTC)
There's a lack of commercial software for Linux. OpenOffice/LibreOffice doesn't always get Word docs right but I imagine Pages doesn't either. But they're closer to a Microsoft experience (intentionally so, apparently) than something actually pleasant to use. I haven't seen a passable word processor for Unix other than LyX, the GUI on top of LaTeX, and that's not at all a typical word processor set up. Edit: and it could be a lot more streamlined for writing stuff. Or maybe I need to customize it.

R graphics work fine. R is native to Unix and all of the rendering is done device-independently and portablely.

pdf handling is pretty half assed and not the pleasant integrated experience as in OSX. You can view them but (at least for me, maybe fixed in other software) cutting and pasting from them gets you badly mangled text, and the viewers are crude.

Not trying to talk you out of it, just give you an idea of what your pain points are likely to be if you do that. It could be a fun excursion even if you ultimately decide to re-install the previous version of OSX.

It could be worse. You could be on Windows. Even if you liked it before, it's going to hell in a handbasket right now.

Definitely pros and cons.

Edited at 2015-10-20 09:27 pm (UTC)
rebeccmeister
Oct. 20th, 2015 10:45 pm (UTC)
I don't even get to use Pages because I have to collaborate with Word users and have to be able to put line numbers on manuscripts, which Pages hasn't figured out. Bleah.
pigshitpoet
Oct. 21st, 2015 05:17 am (UTC)
negates third party compatibility
good to know. don't do the update. i have no idea why these software jerks think they are improving anything when they do shite like this.

man, if you think that's trouble updating personal settings on OS X, you should try dealing with windows 10, nazi control issues, that knock out third party software because MS wants a piece of their action. i am looking for a system like unix but i'm a visual artist, i need point and click, can't deal with code. i'm basically screwed at this point.

maybe i'll move to iPad and just watch youtubes.

; P
rebeccmeister
Oct. 21st, 2015 01:23 pm (UTC)
Re: negates third party compatibility
I think there was a period in the 90's when "upgrades" were actually improvements. And there are certain issues that tend to accumulate and snowball over time, which get resolved through updates. But I don't think that's the entire story anymore. For instance, with these latest Apple updates, Apple is trying to get its hand deeper into consumers' pockets.

As thewronghands has pointed out, there are some fairly good Unix-based options out there. Ubuntu is a graphical user interface that offers plenty of point-and-click, but I am not convinced that Gimp and Inkscape are full substitutes for software programs from another company on my shitlist (Adobe - not for those programs but for friggin' Flash, which is an abomination). I could be wrong on that front, though, because I only dabble in graphics.
pigshitpoet
Oct. 22nd, 2015 07:08 am (UTC)
Re: negates third party compatibility
someone recommended linux windows 14.4 to me..

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